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Price Is Great. Can The Owner Finance?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

I received e-mail:

“Jon,

I am reading your blog and I am interested in these condo-hotel units in Daytona Beach area. Prices seem to be very attractive.

You say that the Lenders do not finance them. What about owner financing?”

Excellent question.

Big banks never financed Daytona Beach Condo-Hotels. With 13 relatively small condo-hotels in the area, this is such a tiny niche for the Lenders. Small lenders who specialized on condo-hotels were the first to go belly up when the housing crisis knocked on our doors.

Today there is practically no financing on condo-hotels, except those larger units with full kitchen, which is a rarity in condo-hotels.

As for the owner financing, there are not many choices. Best priced units are foreclosures and short sales. You can’t get owner financing on short sales, and it is very unlikely to get it when buying a foreclosed unit, unless it is a Freddie Mac property.

There are very few people who do not need the money, and are willing to hold the Note. They understand that if the market improves, they will be disadvantaged, as they would not be able to change the price.

So, even if you find an owner willing to finance, they usually want asking price, plus a very sizable down payment (often 50%).

They understand that between the Association dues, property taxes and mortgage, there will be not enough income, so if you finance the condo, you will be bringing money to the table. It makes it a risky arrangement for the Seller.

So, why would an owner go for offering financing? Some of them look at it as strictly business. They allow you to take over ready for you to default. And if you default in 2 years, well, you paid for their unit so that they did not have to, and time is working for them, as the values started going up. Plus they already got a very sizable down payment, which would help them go through a lengthy foreclosure process.

If you want to buy a unit with owner financing, you need to be ready to make your mortgage payments and not expect it to be paid from rental income. There will be better months, when you would get more money and get close to paying for everything, but there will be months when you would have to bring money not only to pay the loan, but even to pay your maintenance fee.

If you understand this and decide that this is what you want, here is my number: 386-405-4408

Mona Gersky
MoonDancer Realty, Dillsboro,NC - Sylva, NC
GRI,IMSD-Taking the mystery out of real estate.

Jon, sometimes this kind of arrangement can benefit both parties but the details should always be reviewed by attorneys specializing in real estate law.  This was a very well written article.

Mar 23, 2012 12:40 PM
Sara Homan
Coldwell Banker Ellison Realty 352-209-4044 - Ocala, FL
Realtor, Homes, Farms & 55+

Hi Jon,  Owner financing is a very frequently asked question these days.  I do question why folks would need it though.  Previous foreclosure?  Bad credit?  etc

Mar 23, 2012 12:49 PM
Jordon Wheeler
The Jordon Wheeler Group - Fairburn, GA
J W Group Real Estate Sales and Service

Hey Jon,

Owner financing is a hot topic these days, and I get questions from folks with not so good credit but cash and good income.  Thanks for the post and best of success to you this year!

Mar 23, 2012 01:01 PM
Jessica Holtzman
Keller Williams Realty, Inc. - Moorestown, NJ
Real Estate Agent in Southern New Jersey

With FHA laws changing, I feel like this will become more and more relevant.  Almost something that should be offered in the advertising .... if the seller should decide!

Mar 23, 2012 01:02 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

When I started in real estate in the late 80's seller financing was common here. Often, it was a wrap around another owner financed loan and it was perfect for the times. Bank financing was running to 14 - 16% and was hard to get even at that. Sellers were earning 12% and were happy to earn that interest.

For the right sellers, it works.

Mar 23, 2012 02:00 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Mona - of coiurse. the Note and Mortgage is prepared by the attotrney. We work with a law firm on all our listings and theyprepare this stuff.

Mar 23, 2012 02:49 PM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

Jon, I am working on a win win situation right now with some creative owner financing.

Margaret

Mar 23, 2012 02:50 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Sara - valid questions. With condo-hotels it is also because no matter what your score is, Lenders just pass on this tiny and risky niche, so it is often only either owner financing on good terms in exchange for full or close to full price, or private financing with high interest

Mar 23, 2012 02:51 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

My pleasure, Jordon. Wishing you the best as well.

Mar 23, 2012 02:56 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jessica - it all depends on the market, but then, if the market really warms up, FHA will not the only choice. It would be too tempting for the banks and I do not believe they will be sitting on the fence long

Mar 23, 2012 02:58 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Marte - for as long as people understand what they are doing, and not just gambling. I would not suggest my Seller take low downpayment. I know that foreclosure can take a long time, so I think making sure that during all this time the Seller uses the defaulted Buyer money to get to foreclosure auction is only prudent, so I do not suggest they accept 10%.

They have to pay the commissions from the downpayment, and then it may not be enough for them to pay all the exoenses, while in the foreclosure suit

Mar 23, 2012 03:03 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Margaret - good for you. Happy closing

Mar 23, 2012 03:04 PM