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A Scammer Hijacked My Lease Listing - Beware!

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Real Estate Agent with HomeSmart Stars TX #0552717

A Scammer Hijacked My Lease Listing - Beware!

I've read about it happening to other people and never expected it to happen to me. I spent part of Monday morning at the police station sharing the details with the police in the hopes that the perp can be caught and prosecuted.Scammer Text Messages

I listed a home for lease two weeks ago. I entered the information in the normal places, like MLS, and created marketing materials on Postlets.com. This 2100+ square foot home was priced at $2,100 per month.

I live in the neighborhood. In fact, the home is directly across the street and I can see it from the window in my home office. I could see the nice young couple pull up, get out of the car, and call me from the husband's cell phone. And that's when things got weird.

The prospective tenants asked me who Guy LeGrand is, why they had been talking to him about renting the house, and what was my sign doing in the yard. I don't have a clue who Guy is, but is it too much of a coincidence that the street name is Le Grande and his name is LeGrand?

They told me they first saw the listing on the Internet (street name only, no street number) and they very much want to move into this neighborhood as they have friends nearby and they come over to the dog park at the end of the street all the time. They were anxious to rent the place for the $1,500 advertised on the Internet. They drove up and down the street looking for Guy's sign, but I have the only property for lease on the street so they called me.

These wonderful people gave me all the information they had on Guy. In addition to his name (bet it's not his real name), they had his email address (proudly555@yahoo.com) and phone number (914-595-5158). After showing them the house and getting them lease applications, I retreated to the computer and searched for my hijacked listing.

I couldn't find the bogus listing until I Googled Guy's phone number, but when I did, so many listings came up, I had to search for his number and the name of the city to narrow it down. I printed out the information I found on enormo.com (he did a masterful job of taking my description and photos) and began the process of getting him shut down. Since the website made mention of Postlets, I found my listing and his listing for the property on Postlets.com. One email message to Postlets got Guy's listing removed. Postlets was very responsive.

I engaged Guy via text message, pretending to be interested in renting the house. I asked him to send details and photos. He responded by asking for my email address. Since I didn't know if he knew whose listing he stole and my name is in my address, I gave him a friend's email address and he sent my photos, my description and his own home made rental application.

He also sent this "story": I just relocated with my family to Philippines because my company has won an auction for a big construction project. I'll stay here for the next 4-5 years or more so I won't come back soon. I'm looking for someone to live in my House from here,I don't have a problem if you are a student or if you would like to keep pets there, all we require is a super tenant to look after our home like its theirs. The minimum lease available is Long and also Short Term Lease, very important, the utilities are included in the price per month. I'm 50 years old and as I told you, I'm a project manager and my job even if is paid very well, requires that I move a lot with little or short notice. You can move in the House in the same day that you will receive the keys. The only problem is that I'm already in Philippines because we started the work, but you don't need to worry because I've made all arrangements to rent the House from here. I would definetely  like to know a little more about you. Kindly fill out the rent application form below.

Once I got his email, I texted him again. You can see the end of the text stream above. Sure, send the deposit ($500) and the first month's rent ($1,500) and the keys will magically appear in the snail mailbox.

So, I brought all the "evidence" to the police station and shared all this with two officers. A few days later, the detective assigned to the case called and he told me he's working on it. Meanwhile, that nice young couple who tipped me off about the scam, well, they're going to be my new neighbors! 

What can you do to nip these scams in the bud? Try setting up Google Alerts and check out the If This Than That website. Beware of the scammers!

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Comments(63)

Morris Massre
Pembroke Pines, FL
Real Estate Instructor Broward County Florida
I don't think there is any way to prevent this, but you can continue to alert the public to be on the lookout for the proper owners and always ask to see a real estate license. How hard is that?
Aug 31, 2013 03:53 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Lorrie- good for you!  And, weren't you the good detective!  Hope the police can catch this person and tell your new neighbors that they are lucky to have you!

Aug 31, 2013 04:13 AM
Brian Park
Park Realty Investments - Murray, UT

This scam is old, old and old. Just beware that it is not limited to just rentals, I had one joker holding a open house on a new listing of mine and taking deposits and filling out contracts on my forms. He then would normally wait for all the checks to clear while giving the suckers first class followup and then went on to the next town.

His only mistake was having me drive by and discover it and pretend to be a buyer and me telling him I wanted to have my wife look at it before we wrote up the offer and I would be right back. I drove quickly over to a police officer friends house  and showed up with his wife as my wife and my friend as a her brother who knew more about construction and houses then I did.

This was in 1966, and I have heard of a few more cases since then. Some actually rented the property and then held the bargain sale and hit both types of prospects, renters and buyers before catching the midnight express. I wonder how the new renters felt as a dozen or more new tenants showed up to move in the same weekend.

Aug 31, 2013 04:29 AM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

This is why i always suggest tenants to work with a licensed professional. Those stories are happening often and there is no one to blame but......greed. If you know that the 'deal' is too good to be true, why would you think it is just your lucky day?!

Aug 31, 2013 04:34 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Well done you super sleuth! I can't believe the extent these guys will go to. Glad that Postlets was helpful & shut them down quick. I'll investigate the places you mentioned.

Someone told me last month that they saw my listing on CL for half the rent but I could never find it to do something about it.

Aug 31, 2013 05:28 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

I'm surprised there are text messages and likely a track phone that won't be traced.  Would be nice if he could be caught.  Glad the young couple didn't lose any money on the deal.

Aug 31, 2013 07:01 AM
Juan Jimenez
A House on a Rock Home Inspections LLC - Richmond, VA
The Richmond Home Inspector
Wow that's insane. Thanks for the info!
Aug 31, 2013 07:09 AM
Jack O'Neal
HomeSmart Elite Group - Gilbert, AZ

A common internet danger, meet the person at the house, get a picture of the car they arrive in, picture of individual, google the phone number they give you.

Be aware people have hundred of hours to do this all over the world

Aug 31, 2013 09:36 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

That is great that you were able to find the culprit, get details on him, and turn that over to the police.  Hopefully they'll find him and bring him to justice soon.

Aug 31, 2013 11:01 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

We see warning about this type of scam all the time.  It is very difficult to stop these scammers and I feel sorry for those who get caught in the net of the scammers.

Aug 31, 2013 12:20 PM
Geri Sonkin
Douglas Elliman Real Estate 516-457-7103 - Merrick, NY
Long Island Real Estate & Staging Expert

I've heard about rental scams here for quite awhile, though I've never known anyone it happened to.  Like any other crime, we never expect it to happen to us.  I hope they catch this guy, but others like him spring up every day.

Aug 31, 2013 12:22 PM
Gerard Gilbers
Higher Authority Markeing - Asheboro, NC
Your Marketing Master

I have heard of this more with beach properties and vacation rentals but not as much with regular listings. I hope they catch this guy.

Aug 31, 2013 12:35 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

It happens too easily these days! Thanks for the warning. :)

Aug 31, 2013 12:48 PM
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

It has gotten so bad that my local Real Estate Board issued a warning about this happening a lot in our county.

Aug 31, 2013 12:54 PM
Brian DeYoung
also affiliated with Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Heritage Realty - Ithaca, NY
The Realtor with personal investment background

i have heard this type of story over and over. Yours is the only one with a good ending. I hope they catch the guy.

In our area the MLS will actually post information about the houses that are currently being scammed.

Here is a thought...

if the information was less available... who would get hurt? If Trulia and Zillow and the semi legit scammers of their ilk did not have the info would it reduce the lease scammers? I dont know? Just wondering.

Aug 31, 2013 01:41 PM
Ralph Gorgoglione
Metro Life Homes - Palm Springs, CA
California and Hawaii Real Estate (310) 497-9407

Lorrie, a curse and a blessing all in one. What a fantastic job you did turning this unimaginable situation upside down! Well done and congrats on the feature!

Aug 31, 2013 01:49 PM
Sussie Sutton
David Tracy Real Estate - Houston, TX
David Tracy Real Estate for Buyers & Sellers

I would remove from your post that you live across the street in case this guy try's to retaliate. Some people are vengeful. So please be careful.

Aug 31, 2013 04:28 PM
Dino DiNenna
Southern Lifestyle Properties - Hilton Head Island, SC
Hilton Head Real Estate: HiltonHeadRealtySales.com

When that happened to us, it was suggested we email all of the services the scammer was using:

  • abuse@craigslist.com
  • abuse@yahoo.com to which I received an auto reply directing me to http://abuse.yahoo.com
  • abuse@gmail.com 
  • etc

If on craigslist, post an ad yourself using their title and adding FRAUD ALERT to the end of it. In my case, the scammer posted "LIKE NEW" as the title of an ad for an $800 rental using our info & pictures from our for sale ads, so my title read "LIKE NEW - FRAUD ALERT!" for an ad for an $800 rental, and described what the scammer was doing.

By the way... Craigslist replied with the following:

Thanks for contacting craigslist. See below for suggested further actions
that may be relevant to the situation you are emailing about.

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Report suspected criminal activity to law enforcement. Flag criminally
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Direct to "legal@craigslist.org". Subpoena/warrant generally required.

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Flag as "prohibited." More info about scams and fraud:
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Aug 31, 2013 08:21 PM
Bahman Davani, CM at Texas Five Star Realty, Plano, TX (214) 457-7055
Texas Five Star Realty, Plano Texas - Frisco, TX
Homes for Sale in Plano, Frisco, Prosper, Allen TX

Lorrie, thanks for sharing your experience. In last couple of months I have heard so many stories similar to yours about scammers. I just hope some go after them seriously and shut down these scammers.

Sep 01, 2013 02:51 PM
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
NC Real Estate Transition & Relocation 919-602-848

Lorrie - I've had this happen too. Someone hijacked my listing and posted it as a rental on CL. One couple was smart enough to find me and called me. CL immediately took it down. 

The sad thing is, there must be people falling for this. Otherwise, why would these scammers continue to do this? I've heard it is very difficult and probably impossible to catch them.

Sep 01, 2013 10:38 PM