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It was a Very Big Forest Inventory Deal that was No Big Deal

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Real Estate Agent with Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified #1 in Forest Land Mgmt

It was a Very Big Forest Inventory Deal that was No Big Dealmountain forests

We learned long ago that with government clients we need to document Everything and never do anything without a Written Contract, and when you challenge them, they will freely admit that they do not need to honor their word because it “wasn’t in writing”.  And even with a strong contract, they far too often refuse to pay using many of the weasel clauses that you often find in government contracts, and I have seen other companies go into bankruptcy fighting to get paid on these contracts.

This is not always the case, we have had a few good government projects, which worked well but they do not override the reputation of the other commies in the government who feel that it is ok to screw over a contractor while saving a dime for the government to waste somewhere else.

heliBut for our corporate clients, Honor is a very big thing, and everyone knows that their reputation is constantly on the line, so our agreements with them are not generally written until we have fleshed out the project and the agreement is more of a list of expectations than a contract.  And these are seldom small projects, rather they are generally five or six figure projects which involve a lot of time and expertise.

And the corporate clients Always pay us well for a job well done.

A while ago, when I got a call from a fellow that I had met on Linkedin from a state that we had been trying to make a presence in for a while, I was excited. the project that was not

He spoke about an inventory project that would morph into a long term contract on several hundred thousand acres.

After a half hour on the phone with this fellow from a Quasi Corporation, I set out to do my research for our call scheduled for the next week.

I researched the former inventories on the land, the accessability of the land, and many other important issues and I had a good idea of what we should see when our boots hit the ground out there.

I also researched what it would cost for the inventory, since even corporate folks need to know what they will have to invest in a project.

It was going to be a little expensive since our crews would be dependent on airplanes and helicopters to get into almost all of the parcels of this forest.  Our crews are frugel and do a lot of camping out so our flight cost would be low compared to others but is still expensive to drop off and move crews and gear once a week to various remote parcels.forests

After spending a week planning the project I called the client back and discussed the project plan with him for a while.

Then my DIY radar started to go off, and I asked him a few essential questions before he admitted that they were not really interested in hiring us, just needed some ideas on how to do the job, and they would be getting a government grant to pay their own people to do the work.

I quickly changed gears and suggested that he hire us as advisors to plan the project and train their members in how to do the work, this would allow the project to be done well and provide local wages.

forestThis did not seem to interest him too much but he did offer to take it to the council if I would write up all my recommendations and plans and send them to him.

By this time my radar was firing quite well and quasi corporations were leaning a little too much toward being classified as government agencies than reputable corporations.

I did not spend another week polishing up the blueprint for his project, just wrote it up as A Big Deal that turned out to be No Big Deal.

 

 

picture credits

  • Woodland Management Service
  • Morgue files

Comments(6)

Bill Reddington
Re/max By The Sea - Destin, FL
Destin Florida Real Estate

That seems to happen in all facets of this business. Just gave up on someone I had been working for 3 months. Just have to move on. Merry Christmas!

Dec 24, 2013 07:31 AM
Lisa Friedman
Great American Dream Realty - Essex, VT
35 Years of Real Estate Experience!

Bob, good call with your radar.  It is sad that people will take advantage of someone else without any intention of using their services.

Dec 24, 2013 07:47 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Hey Bob...where did you take those pictures? It looks like my neck of the woods. LOL...no pun intended. Well OK. It was really intended.

Dec 24, 2013 09:31 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Bob, It is much the same as a FSBO that fully intends to sell it himself but wants all the tools and staging advice from the agent. I remember hearing the line many times "We are going to try it ourselves for a few weeks" and when a few weeks passed it was "We really can't afford to pay an agent, we need all the money we can get."

Dec 31, 2013 05:52 AM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-739-3843

Oh, Bob, I just had a deal go sour on land, too and the seller is being really greedy...sad how unethical people can be. At least with yours, you trusted your gut early on and didn't get too far in before calling it quits. I will commend you for switching gears and trying a new tactic instead of getting bent out of shape and telling him where to stick it!

Happy New Year, too~

Dec 31, 2013 11:07 AM
The Woodland Team of Texas
The Woodland Companies - Austin, TX
Land Specialists

Hi Bob, I am enjoying going through some of your early blog posts and reposts and getting ready to start doing some posts myself soon.

Sep 01, 2019 09:35 PM