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Discrimination in 2015

An entry into Grant Schneider's "What Have You Stopped Doing" contest

 

 

     I'm a lender.  It's 2015.  I've decided that now is a good time to begin discriminating.  In the past, I went above and beyond the call of an "equal opportunity lender".  I would try to help anyone, and everyone.  With almost a decade of experience in this industry, my "help everyone" mission stophas served me well.  It introduced me to new people, taught me an awful lot about difficult loans and how to navigate and close them, and forced me to learn patience. 

 

 

     But no more.  In late 2014 and into 2015, I've made the decision to start discriminating.  In the lending industry, "discrimination" is a really dirty word, so let me be clear.  I'm not discriminating on the basis, of age, race, color, national original, sex, familial status, religion, or handicap.  I never have, never will.  I think racists are ignorant and disgusting people.  I think people that believe they're better than or more deserving than others are intolerable.  I'm talking about time wasters.  I am discriminating against time wasters.

 

So who falls into the "time waster" category?

 

 

The demanding procrastinator

 

     You know the type - they're so busy that they don't have time to answer the phone or send you documents when you need them, and so busy that when they have a minute to talk, they're going to call you and get angry if you're not available.  This person doesn't understand why you don't understand - they have a JOB.  And a CHILD.  HOW can you POSSIBLY expect them to find a fax machine or figure out how to scan a document during the day?  Oh, and the evening?  Heck no, by then they're too worn out.  Although the demanding procrastinator will take a week to get you anything you need, you can bet your bottom dollar all hell will break loose if you dare let their rate lock expire!  And contract dates?  You mean to tell me they aren't merely suggestions?  "Time is of the essence" doesn't apply to demanding procrastinators.  In the past, I'd bite my tongue, consider it a trial of patience, and move forward to help these folks.  In 2015.....nope.  I'm discriminating against demanding procrastinators.

 

 

The crazy, overbearing ex-girlfriend/boyfriend client

 

     Oh, you didn't answer your phone?  Let me call you right back and try again.  While your phone is ringing, I have you on speaker while I send you a text and simultaneously email you.  That's ok that you didn't answer the first 2 times.  I'll wait 15 seconds, and practice the "3rd Crazy ex girlfriendtime's a charm" technique of harrassing calling someone.  Yes, these actions are indicative of the crazy, overbearing client.  Anyone that does business with me knows that I generally answer my phone, and have a pretty quick response time.  I'm also a HUGE fan of voicemail.   Crazy, overbearing clients are not.  They are a fan of leaving you with 20 missed calls in an hour.  In the past, I'd bite my tongue.  In 2015...I've decided that sometimes just not responding is the best way for the crazy/overbearing client to get the closure they need.  It's not you...it's me.

 

 

The over-discloser

 

     This person has all their ducks in a row....and some chickens, geese, and emu's to go along with them.  They created 500 pages of files that they could send over to their loan officer, in every format except one that I can open.  There's no WAY I could possibly need more information than what they've put together.  The problem is, I asked for a recent Stack of paperspaystub and bank statement.  They don't have time to go into the 500 pages to find the specific paystub and bank statement I'm looking for, and they don't understand why I don't, either.  "It's in there somewhere" is a phrase that often comes out of their mouth.  "The other 10 lenders I talked to before you needed this" is another popular one.  Well Mr(s) over-discloser, perhaps the next lender you talk to will request all of this documentation, or perhaps they have the time to dig through your life records to find a paystub.  This guy?  He's trying to run a business and grow his business, not spend half his day sorting through your high school transcripts from 30 years ago trying to find a paystub.  Ain't nobody got time for that!

 

 

The Personal Concierge Seeker

 

     This person does NOT want to pay top dollar, but they want you to pretend they are.  In fact, they want to negotiate every penny they can out of you.  I mean, why would you as a lender want to be compensated?  You're only helping them with a 4-unit investment property renovation loan, and they're successfully self-employed (and successfully writing off all their income) with no asset reserves and a sub-par FICO score......slam dunk, amIright!?!?

 

     The concierge seeker wants your attention.  ALL of it.  They are your only client, and your focus is on them and them alone.  You better be available at 7am for the concierge seeker, and when they call at 10pm, you'd better answer your phone, or they may quickly become the crazy, ex-girlfriend/boyfriend client we discussed above.

 

 

     There are others, for sure, but the gist is that I've realized that although I may lose some business by discriminating against the types of people/personalities that I'll work with, I will more than make up for that in the time I'll have focusing on productive activities.  I've learned that if I work with folks like those above, it is such a physical and emotionally draining experience, that it's a surefire way to burn out. 

 

 

     For me to grow my business, I know I need to market, I need to network, and I need to be efficient.  Working with some people makes these things impossible, as it brings unnecessary drama into the process, and causes hours upon hours of time & resources to slip away.  In 2015, I'm discriminating against clients that don't work with my business model and cause a bottle neck for the rest of my clients that truly deserve the time & attention.  In 2015, I'm going to stop being a lender that's everything to everyone.  I think it's time I begin to discriminate.

 

 

Posted by

John Meussner
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Comments(70)

Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I stand and applaud.  Well said, my friend.  

Mar 19, 2015 08:19 AM
Karen Crowson
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Rancho Bernardo, CA
Your Agent for Change

Our first client meetings should always include the language - "let's get to know each other and see if we're a good fit". It takes commitment from the lender, the agent, the title company, the seller and the seller's agent. When you have one party that believe they are the most important player in the transaction.....well, it's usually a recipe for disaster.

Mar 19, 2015 09:47 AM
Annette Thor
Connecticut Homes and Commercial Fairfield Cty,CT reinct.com - Westport, CT
Residential & Commercial Real Estate Broker in CT

Great post John, I love the way you describe the archetypes we all know too well....but it reminds me I have some discriminating to do.

Mar 19, 2015 10:23 AM
Shanna Hall
Real Estate Solutions - Kirkwood, MO
I love selling houses!!!St. Louis, MO 314-703-1311

I love love love this!!!!  John Meussner maybe you should have been a writer!

Mar 19, 2015 11:42 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

John

Your post is right on point . . . .  when we cut out the time wasters . . . . we have more time to be productive.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Mar 19, 2015 12:52 PM
Nina Rogoff
Boston, MA
Wix Websites for Real Estate Agents

Ok, I remember...you majored in English!! That's why your posts are so well-written! I enjoyed reading this, John. It can be hard to take a stand and choose not to work with everyone who wants our services. It means recognizing the difference between turning away business and wasting time.

Mar 19, 2015 04:05 PM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

We call these people "toxic clients" .

By " discriminating" it frees up our  time to work with the awesome clients who appreciate us.

Mar 19, 2015 08:40 PM
Chris Lima
Turtle Reef Realty - Port St Lucie, FL
Local or Global-Allow me to open doors for you.

This blog literally made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

Mar 19, 2015 10:40 PM
Eleanor Thorne
Equity Resources - Cary, NC
Advantage Lending 919-649-5058

OUTSTANDING!  We have those clients - and you are right, with mortgage lending being where it is right now, "ain't nobody got time."  Our phone rang at 6:30am on SUNDAY.  Then again 20 minutes later, and then again and again... smh 

Mar 20, 2015 01:27 AM
Donna & Larry Johnson
Keller Williams Real Estate - West Chester, PA
Chester & Delaware County

Very interesting! I always look to see if I am getting paid at the end. If you feel that way and the time is worth your investment then go for it. We all have decesions to make and who is to say what is right and what is wrong!

Mar 20, 2015 02:32 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Betsy Barber that is the worst!  Happens with all lenders, as sometimes processors can get a bit overwhelmed, but I always, always make sure we don't already have something before requesting it (I try to get clients to cc me when sending docs to processing)

 

Marte - agreed, thanks for commenting!

 

Mike-  I've had a few of those....makes me wonder how these people have any personal relationships when they act that way. 

 

Jared-  thanks my friend, appreciate you stopping by & giving it a read.

 

Karen Crowson yes!  I always try to get people to see all parties involved in a transaction as a team....we all play a role toward the same goal, a successful settlement.  One person with a different attitude can sour the process for everyone.  Working with 'good fits' makes for a much happier experience.

 

Annette - discriminate away!  Ha, thanks for reading, there are more examples I wanted to put, but the post was getting long

 

Shanna - thank you!  I do some writing on the side....not good enough to have anyone toss me much in the way of paychecks with that gig...ahhh someday (a guy can dream right?)

 

Lou - you summed it up faster than I did.  Cut out time wasters, focus on productive things, and success will come.  Thanks!

 

Nina Rogoff thanks for your kind words, very much appreciated

 

Margaret - exactly, and you know the saying "birds of a feather flock together"....awesome clients usually lead to awesome referrals. 

 

Chris - glad you enjoyed it, thanks for stopping by!

 

Eleanor Thorne I have many phone numbers in my cell phone stored as "do not answer" for that kind of behavior.  Or sometimes I'll answer just to tell them I left the mortgage business.....when it comes to those types, I'm fine with them believing that.

 

Donna & Larry Johnson you're right.  Admittedly, we're all a little biased - when it's a huge payoff, it seems we can be a bit more patient.  But even then, there's certainly a line of what I just can't put up with.  Nice to meet you, by the way....used to live in WC and love the area!

Mar 20, 2015 06:14 AM
Dianne Goode
Raleigh Cary Realty - Raleigh, NC
Realtor/Broker

I'm with you!  Down with the time-wasters!   Great rant, and I especially loved the line "500 pages .. in every format but one I can open."   Too funny.

Mar 20, 2015 10:57 PM
Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

I'm with you on this.  If we all took the same stand, perhaps these people you've so aptly described would get it too!  Glad this was featured :)

Mar 21, 2015 01:57 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I think this is the toughest portion of our business trying to weed out the time wasters. Gut feeling has always worked well & it's just reinforcement when they text you 3 times in a row. I'm not an idiot folks - when I see the same phone # come up 3 times - I  know your psycho & of course you want the optimum attention even though you have a lower credit score than a binobo. These people always seem to 'need' the best - attention, products, etc.

Mar 21, 2015 06:40 AM
Kristen Correa, Broker
Kristen Correa Real Estate & Reedy Creek Realty Services - Keller, TX
I love coffee & real estate. I am out of coffee!

Serve them well or rapid-fire. Enjoyed your post very much!

Mar 21, 2015 11:07 AM
Karen Luke
South Metro Property Management, LLC - McDonough, GA
Henry County Real Estate

Agents get all of theset types as well. 

Mar 24, 2015 12:43 AM
Will Nesbitt
Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria - Alexandria, VA
Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage.

Unique topic to cover, John Meussner at (484) 680-4852.

Mar 24, 2015 01:23 AM
Marnie Matarese
DWELL REAL ESTATE - Sarasota, FL
Showing you the best of Sarasota!

I am fine-tuning this great post and am applying it to selling real estate.  The same people you deal with are the ones I deal with and at the risk of sounding mean, I can no longer waste time with people who will not follow my directions and understand that I have their best interests at heart.  Thanks for sharing this one.

Mar 24, 2015 11:32 AM
Andrea HoffDomin
Florida Dream Homes Realty - Fort Lauderdale, FL
- in Real Estate always on your side!

Great post and thank you for your honesty. This experience is the same in an agents real estate life. Often we all do not want to agree with this statement because we think we need such customers.

Sunny greetings from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Mar 25, 2015 12:54 AM
Winston Heverly
Coldwell Banker Access Realty - South Macon, GA
GRI, ABR, SFR, CDPE, CIAS, PA

A super post I came across among the many archieves and frequent bloggers. Thanks for being apart of Active Rain.-

Apr 13, 2015 01:08 PM