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Reblogger Lenn Harley
Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

Stupid?  Or, Crazy Like A Fox??

Reality ahead.

They managed to get a listing in the MLS where it feeds to the IDX where it's syndicated to Zillow, etc.

At the very least, they'll generate buyer calls.

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Original content by Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL

This gotta (screw proper English) be the longest short sale in history. Short sale since 2010. All because of a dynamite combination of Bank of America servicing an FHA loan, where the strict FHA guidelines meet the most incompetent people at Bank of America.

From the first moment you hit the wall. There is a notation on the case, and the Bank refuses even to talk about it. You have to square it with Legal. The attorney tries to deal with legal, but they demand the Seller call them. The Seller calls, finally gets through. They verify that she is she, and then tell her they can’t discuss it with her.

With whom do they need to discuss it?

- With the Seller.

- I am the Seller

- We know, but we do not have the written authorization to speak to you.

- Authorization from whom?

- From the Seller

At some initial naïve point the Seller signed for Loan Modification, and it automatically placed her with some department. She was rejected, then moved out of the house, but the notation stays and nobody can touch the file until it is there. It is difficult to remove it, and then, after few months this notation automatically comes back, and suddenly everybody stop and tell you they can’t even touch it.

Bank of America Circus

Because it is an FHA loan, it first has to go to Loan Modification, even when the Seller does not reside there, then they say she is ineligible, then they would allow Short sale. Takes forever to get to the approval time, and this is when they would do the appraisal, and yes, things are changing, so they would counter, the Buyer, pissed off by months of waiting and lost opportunities, would walk away.

Next contract submitted at what the Bank countered. But it is a new day, new deal, everything starting from scratch, loan modification, rejection, months of working, then new appraisal, new counter, buyer walks away…

We did this several times, still hoping that market stays without change and the next appraisal comes at the same number and we’d be able to save this home from foreclosure.

Last contract we have is from September 2014. It took several months just to get BoA open the case in Equator. For way over a month they simply could not open the Equator even after they said they would. Something was not working on their end , a software glitch, which huge Bank of America could not fix for weeks… Tons of documents, endless addenda and requests, including a request to change the listing price three times in the last month and a half. First to $140K, then to $139,900, and then to … $140K again…

And few days ago the geniuses at BoA rejected the Short Sale. They called it fraud.

Why? The Buyer is originally from Russia, and his last name has two variants of spelling. If you look at the way it is written in Russian, it would be Efimov. If you write it in English the way it sounds, it is Yefimov (name changed). The Buyer signed some of the addenda as Efimov, and some as Yefimov. Well, Russian and English are two different languages, and there is often no direct match, so yes, this is not unusual at all.

But try to explain it to geniuses at Bank of America. They claim they have guidelines from FHA for everything. Do they have the guidelines from FHA to be stupid? The very bank, where they have plenty of Russian employees, and all they would need is to show them the 2 variants, and every Russian would say that this is the same name.

The bank asked for the addendum to address the spelling inconsistency. We complied. The bank asked for the driver license and SS card. We provided both, and on both of these documents, the name is Yefimov, the same as it appears on the contract.

I do not want to get into Guinness Book of records with the longest short sale. I want this short sale closed. Our negotiator contacted HUD and told them the story. They agreed with her, said it absolutely shouldn’t have taken that long, and said they understand the name variations… And said they would talk to Bank of America.

Would you, guys, at Bank of America, listen?

I understand that BoA is mostly concerned with CYA…

I believe the whole bank is one this huge A from this CYA…

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Comments(15)

Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street, Suite #5, Topsfield, MA - Topsfield, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

 I've always considered the term "short sale" to be an oxymoron Lenn Harley 

May 26, 2015 06:27 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Doug.  HA!  Unless you're the lender.

May 26, 2015 06:34 AM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

Good evening Lenn. BofA needs to change their name to PinA. Just my 2¢'s worth...

May 26, 2015 08:23 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Lenn Harley ... this reminds me of an old 3 Stooges skit.  Not near as funny though ... and it seems the Stooges were much smarter too ...

Gene

 

May 26, 2015 08:51 AM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Lenn - What an amazing story. Thanks for sharing this post in a re-blog.

May 26, 2015 09:26 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Oh, boy! I don't even know what to say. You win the prize. I hope this nightmare is over soon.

May 26, 2015 10:47 AM
Ann Hayden 636-399-7544
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Select Properties-St. Louis Missouri - Des Peres, MO
SelectAnn.com

Lenn Harley ,

A solid case of I am not going to take the blame for thinking!

May 26, 2015 12:53 PM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

WOW!   I though my deal of 3 years and no contact from any of the 7 negotiators at the bank was  a long time.

May 26, 2015 01:30 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Lenn. Thank you for the re-blog not a post that I've seen. What a crazy story and could very well be the longest short sale ever. If someone has been living there all this time and not paying, that makes sense as well?

May 26, 2015 06:03 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Lenn.  That story three years of frustration with BoA doesn't surprise me.  They are the worst.

May 26, 2015 08:52 PM
Donald Urschalitz
Lubeck Realty Group - Jupiter, FL
P.A. Realtor ABR RSPS North Palm Beach County

Nothing short about that and bankers wonder why they are not loved!

May 26, 2015 09:42 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Michael.  HA!  I've heard worse.  I've had several bad experiences with BofA.

Short sales can be problems in and of themselves without ignorant loan officers getting involved.

May 26, 2015 11:24 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

My short sales have dwindled...i use to be the princess of them here..lol...they have gotten far worse as the more stupid people are hired...we are definitely dumbing down America & it is evident in the skill sets, knowledge & understanding these people you deal with on bank short sales.

May 29, 2015 09:50 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ginny.  Short sales are not always simple.  They should be left to agents who can articulate the guidelines.  Sadly, consumers don't understand the limits.

May 29, 2015 10:09 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

What a nightmare. I had a potential seller tell me yesterday that he would consider selling short. I told him he would have to disclose his assets and they won't consider him a candidate with hefty bank accounts all over the country just because he doesn't want to write a check to sell.

May 29, 2015 11:38 PM