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“No, This is Not a Client that I am Willing to Assist”

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Mortgage and Lending with Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 NMLS # 6869

“No, This is Not a Client that I am Willing to Assist”

 

This is not something you will hear me say very often, but this is one that fit for a NO. I listened to an attorney tell me about a client that he had represented to nearly 10 years. He indicated that his client was currently in foreclosure, but starting about 10 years ago, he did a chapter 13 bankruptcy for her, which she was in an out of three times. This was someone who have been in and out of subprime mortgages twice, then into a chapter 7 bankruptcy and now into foreclosure.

 

There was a pretty good appeal by the attorney to assist his client, but I asked him one question and then the selling stopped. I asked him if he would loan his own money to this client? He immediately said that he wasn’t in the lending business. OK, but if you were in the lending business, would you lend your money to this client. He finally said NO.

 

Unfortunately, not everyone should be a homeowner, this is just one of those cases. Everyone along the way has found out, this person isn’t interested in paying and I would never consider having any lender that I work with, give this borrower a mortgage.

 

Based on what I have shared, would you loan your money to this borrower? I thought so.

 

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Joe Petrowsky, NMLS #6869

Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS #2709

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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Good morning, Joe --- I like how you phrased the question to the attorney.  I would also answer no.  Not everyone should be a homeowner.   

Sep 01, 2015 11:42 PM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Joe I would not only NOT lend this person a penny of my own money, I would not lend them a penny of anyone elses money as well.  This is the type of person who is a user, and is just looking for the next property they can stiff the lender and live in the property for free.

Sep 02, 2015 12:41 AM
Lawrence "Larry" & Sheila Agranoff. Cell: 631-805-4400
The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803 - Plainview, NY
Long Island Condo and Home Specialists

Keep on walking Joe...This one was not a keeper!

Sep 02, 2015 12:55 AM
Nicole Doty - Gilbert Real Estate Expert
Zion Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Broker/Owner of Zion Realty ZionRealtyAZ.com

Absolutely not! I wouldn't lend money to this person under any circumstance. I bet their middle name is "default". 

Sep 02, 2015 01:04 AM
Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Joe Petrowsky  you hit the nail on the head with the magic words  NOT Everyone Should be a Home Owner

Sep 02, 2015 01:05 AM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

Joe, you are one smart cookie.  As you said, not everyone should own a home.  They obviously just can't seem to get on the road to recovery and need to take another path.

Sep 02, 2015 01:46 AM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

Knowing when to say "no" is imperative. You asked the right question, Joe, and saved yourself and others a ton of grief.

Sep 02, 2015 02:34 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Joe,

The word "NO" is underused in this business...It is such a good word, maybe we should start a campaign to popularize it and make it politically correct...since it is a minority.   A

Sep 02, 2015 06:04 AM
Monte Wall
Keller Williams Premier Realty - Katy, TX
Keller Williams Premier Realty - Katy, Texas

Interesting that he represented her for over 10 years.  Perhaps he should have a side business in financial counseling.  And no,  I would not lend her my own money.

Sep 02, 2015 06:16 AM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

That person will have trouble renting. It made no sense for that attorney to think he could help this person get a mortgage. A blind man could see that. Why would that person even begin to think about buying a house while in her current situation? You made right decision.

Sep 02, 2015 06:44 AM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Joe, sounds like this woman figured out how to use the system. That's exactly what Trump did over the years.

Sep 02, 2015 07:53 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I don't have any problem answering your questions with a big, NO.

Sep 02, 2015 09:47 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Joe

The person has not demonstrated that they are responsibly . . . . and is not a good candidate for home ownership or a mortgage.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Sep 02, 2015 10:34 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Some people are just not responsible enough to be a home owner and that person is definitely one of them

Sep 02, 2015 11:21 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Joe- interesting that the attorney wanted you to find someone to loan his client the money but he wouldn't himself.  

Sep 02, 2015 11:28 AM
Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

I've known people like that. These people just cant ever get it together. They live under a cloud where everything always goes wrong or they are just plain irresponsible. Our society can only help them so much, just what that lawyer probably did. Maybe he sees some good in them. However, for these people you do them a disservice to help them one more time because the result will always be the same. Failure with other people/organizations picking up the check.

Sep 02, 2015 11:34 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate

Joe, my answer would be NO for sure!

Sep 02, 2015 01:10 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Joe Petrowsky these are called 'D' clients (or consumers - not clients). We do not want to attract them either - or they will refer the similar people to you...lol!

Sep 02, 2015 04:20 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

That's an excellent question, Joe.  Though, while reading this I wondered how much this attorney has made from this client.

Sep 02, 2015 10:01 PM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Joe - You make a great point on this one, and you really put it into perspective when you ask if you would loan that person your own money.

Sep 08, 2015 01:35 PM