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Influx of Lender Demands for Unsecured Promissory Notes on Sacramento Short Sales

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Real Estate Agent with Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker DRE #00697006

sacramento short sale listing agentSome short sale lenders are demanding unsecured promissory notes as a seller contribution to the short sale. Over the past few months, I've witnessed an uptick in this type of activity, specifically from such lenders as Countrywide and Bank of America. I've also received a lot of email from readers about the increase in this practice.

Three of my Sacramento short sales are in this position at the moment. Lenders are examining sellers' credit and cash flow very closely and, if the seller has good credit coupled with disposable income, the lenders are refusing to let the seller skate.

Fortunately, in California, most of the foreclosures are conducted through a trustee's sale, which means first loans that are purchase money are exempt from a deficiency judgment in a trustee's sale. Sellers who refuse to negotiate the unsecured promissory note may elect to go through foreclosure instead and deal with the fall-out and consequences as long as they won't have to pay the lender back. But this might not be the best choice in all situations.

In 3 of my recent short sales, the promissory notes are typically about $10,000 or less on a $150,000 or so debt forgiveness. They are interest free, payable at such rates as $85 a month for 10 years. If paid on time, we negotiate that they are not to be reported to the credit bureaus. For some sellers, that's a small price to pay to do the short sale, especially if the sellers are current on their payments. Being current may qualify a seller to immediately purchase another home under Fannie Mae guidelines.

Moreover, realize that the banks may sell those unsecured promissory notes to a third party after escrow closes. This third party will pay a discount and not "cash value" for the note. If the note is sold, sellers might want to contact the third party to negotiate a further discounted payoff in cash. I'm hearing that some of these notes are sold for 10 to 50 cents on the dollar. That would mean an investor might pay $1,000 to $5,000 for that $10,000 note and may be willing to take a few grand above that for payment in cash.

Something to consider if you're thinking about doing a short sale. If you're a short sale listing agent, prepare your client for this possibility.

Elizabeth Weintraub Land Park Real Estate Agent in Sacramento

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Comments(14)

Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Elizabeth:  The world of short sales changes daily.  What worked for someone a year ago is definitely not relevant to their friends situation today.  Heck!  What happend last month isn't relevant anymore either.

Jan 29, 2009 06:26 AM
Tom Braatz Waukesha County Real Estate 262-377-1459
Coldwell Banker - Oconomowoc, WI
Waukesha County Realtor Real Estate agent. SOLD!

Elizabeth

We sure live in a world of trying times.

Sincerely

Tom Braatz

Jan 29, 2009 06:50 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Elizabeth, I tell my sellers upfront that if they have assets they besy be prepared to sign a note at closing. So far I have been able to negotiate most of them away. But signing a note for $10,000 is a far cry better than being foreclosed on. 

Jan 29, 2009 08:55 AM
Mesa, Arizona Real Estate Mesa Arizona Realtor
Homes Arizona Real Estate LLC - Mesa, AZ
AzLadyInRed

Elizabeth, I heard about this in a class yesterday - AND - have you heard? Some of the companies are agreeing to "short sale" to their homeowners...now THAT makes sense...wouldn't that be a great idea? Especially if the homeowners are paying and working.....and relieve our market of all or at least some of the ss's and reos........

Pepper

Jan 29, 2009 10:03 AM
Barbara S. Duncan
RE/MAX Advantage - Searcy, AR
GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR

You are one wealth of knowledge about short sales.  I may have to buy your book!

Jan 29, 2009 11:31 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Ack, Chris Ann, you're telling me. And it's too late to add some of this new stuff to my book already!

Hi Tom: It's certainly not the best of times for a lot of people right now.

Hi Broker Bryant: That's the thing that some short listing agents don't understand. You can negotiate. That's what we are paid to do. Anybody can mail an offer to the bank and then meekly accept what the bank comes back with. Nobody has to take that kind of treatment lying down. We fight back. Good for you.

Hi Teri: I'm not sure what you are referring to? Do you mean when banks do a loan modification based on the comparable sales or the thing that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is testing in some markets where they actually tell the home owner that they'll do a short sale and at what amount before the home goes on the market?

Hi Barbara: I talked to an agent today who said she had been avoiding short sales like the plague but now figures she better jump in with both feet because that's where the business is. I was thinking, "Yeah, I could have told you that three years ago!" I looked at the market in early 2006 and thought to myself, "Hey, I need to write an article about short sales." That article ranked #1 in Google for more than 2 years and dropped to 2nd place now behind Wikipedia. Don't believe me? Google "short sale" or "short sales," and you'll see what I mean. LOL.

Elizabeth Weintraub Land Park Real Estate Agent in Sacramento

Jan 29, 2009 11:57 AM
Jeanean Gendron
The Address Realty - Redding, CA
Specializing in Selling Unique Properties

Nice information Elizaabeth. We've seen similar. I did not know that these loans could be sold, however. I do know that their financial statement is looked at carefully for discretionary money and rightfully so. So you have a book coming out....I'll want a copy for sure! Nice post as usual!

Jan 29, 2009 12:41 PM
Terry & Bonnie Westbrook
Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner - Grand Rapids, MI
Westbrook Realty - Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Re

Great advice I am in the middle of a transaction right now that the sellers are current and the lender (GMAC) is talking about asking for a note for the difference. Thanks for the info.

Jan 29, 2009 01:43 PM
Brian Lee Burke
Kenna Real Estate - Lone Tree, CO
Broker & Advising Expert-Kenna Luxury Real Estate

It's happening here too. In one instance it was negotiated that the seller didn't have to sign a note and for some reason I guess he did (it's confusing to me) and the bank sold it to a 3rd party - they garnished the seller's wages???? How could they do that without notifying the seller first? ~Rita

Jan 29, 2009 03:30 PM
Mesa, Arizona Real Estate Mesa Arizona Realtor
Homes Arizona Real Estate LLC - Mesa, AZ
AzLadyInRed

I've not heard of the scenario you mentioned - that would be wonderful. The db of a large real estate company here in town was telling us of a couple of listings taken by her agents. When they called to speak with the bank, they were told they would short sale to them - the seller. She didn't mention who the lender was, but it was interesting as to how the listing agent would receive their commission. Selling to the Seller? ;-)

Pepper

Jan 29, 2009 03:41 PM
R Realty
Airport, CA

The deal Teri is talking about is a Modification with principle reduction. And there would be no commission....They strike a "price" (new loan balance) higher than the net on a short sale, and entice the owner to stay. Similarly, owners have been able to convert a short sale (that failed) to a short refi, and keep the house (like selling to themselves.) Again, no commission to agent, except LO.

To your point of more personal notes being asked for, we see that as a way for more investors to approve more shorts, and at lower prices. It helps sellers bring their prices down more to what buyers may want, indirectly. It's something the seller can control, unlike the rest of the process where sellers sit back & wait for the Los Mit gods to make their decision.

The next evolution is for the sellers to agree to it up front as a negotiation tool to shave 10K off the BPO to make the deals work! 

Jan 29, 2009 06:20 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

The same thing is happening on my short sales sometimes. Rare, but occasional. Small price to pay for the settlement. Your advice is very sound!

Jan 29, 2009 11:33 PM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Hi Everybody: Yes, when the bank(s) agree to do a short sale refi or loan modification, the seller is essentially reselling the home to the seller. Typically, on the short sale refi, another bank funds the loan, based on a high LTV ratio, 90 to 95%, which may or may not contain a provision for equity sharing, and on the loan mod, the principal balance is reduced (close to comps), a lower interest rate applied and often the term is extended. But in both cases, the seller stays in the home.

Unless an agent is collecting a fee for the loan modification, which is a whole other can o' worms in California, there is no commission.

Elizabeth Weintraub Land Park Real Estate Agent in Sacramento

 

Jan 30, 2009 01:50 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Elizabeth, this is a great post. I had heard about this and have a couple of sellers with assets that I am sure will be hit with this once we get a contract.

Feb 10, 2009 03:04 PM