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If I Buy a Duplex, Can I Apply the Tenants Rent Towards My Mortgage? FAQ #9

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Mortgage and Lending with Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA

If I Buy a Duplex, Can I Use the Tenants Rent Towards My Mortgage and Can I Still Use the Down Payment Assistance (dpa) that I've Been Approved for?

 

As a Mortgage Loan Originators (MLO) here in Los Angeles & Ventura counties, I work with a lot of low-medium income first time buyers who are using dpa to purchase their first home.  I personally love it when my borrowers are thinking about their future investment needs.

In my continuing series of answering some of the frequently asked questions that I get from prospects and clients, in Part 9, I want to answer a question that can present some rewarding opportunities for first time buyers who are upto the challenges.

I say opportunities because in this particular scenario, I can not only help my borrowers buy their first home but their first investment property as well.  While I love it when my borrowers are thinking ahead like this, being a landlord is not for everyone.  Dealing with rental properties and tenants can be extremely challenging (as well as costly); I speak from personal experience when I say that.

For many of my young, single, first timers, who have been pre-approved for some dpa, all they're looking for in their first home is a small, affordable and manageable property to live in.  Many just want to purchase a small condo close to work (typically in urban employment centers) but with the challenges of purchasing condos around here, many of my borrowers often result to small, modest homes in areas that are typically outside of their desired areas (and farther from work) in order to still stay within their budget.

The problem with this scenario is that my borrowers may now have to consider roommates in order to keep their expenses down and more often than not, they're actually looking to get away from roommates and certainly don't want to live with anymore roommates.  However, with a duplex, they still get to have a place of their own and still get a little help with their expenses.

To answer the question, "if I buy a duplex, can I use the tenants rent towards my mortgage and can I still use the dpa that I've been approved for"?  No & No.  For starters, dpa programs are strictly for one unit, owner occupied properties so duplexes aren't eligible.  Secondly, while a tenants rent can help a borrower qualify for a higher mortgage, the tenants rent is not applied to the mortgage payment.  A tenants rent may be used as additional income for the borrower in order for the borrower to qualify for a higher sales price.

However, in order for a borrower to be able to use a tenants rent as additional income, there needs to be a history of stable tenancy and even then, only 85% of the rent can be used as additional income for the borrower. 

For example, for approximately $2,000 a month (PITI) a qualified borrower could purchase this downtown Los Angeles duplex.  One unit is vacant but the other unit is currently leased to a long term tenant for $1,400.  A buyer would be able to include $1,190 a month as additional income in order to qualify for a higher sales price.

Minutes from the metro rail, restaurants, shopping in the wholesale district and entertainment in the art district, this nicely rehabbed duplex has 3bd/1ba in each unit.  Both units are freshly painted, new flooring (carpet/tile) throughout, new cabinets and counters in the kitchens and bathrooms.  There is also storage in the basement and a storage unit in the back of the lot.

 

Today's real estate market and lending environment can be really scary, which is why it's important to get as much information as possible before starting your search.  Finding out more about affordable home loan options and getting pre-approved is an absolute must. 

The pre-approval process is not a simple process and it's because it can get really complicated and convoluted, that borrowers today need affordable loan options that are best suited for their own needs.

If you have any questions and/or concerns or if I can be of any assistance, please feel free to contact me, Donne Knudsen, at 805.2069123 or donne4loans@earthlink.net.  That's what I'm here for and I would love to be able to assist you in your search for an affordable home loan. 

 

What Kind of First Time Buyer Programs are Available in Los Angeles & Ventura Counties? FAQ - #1

What kind of property can I buy? FAQ - #2

What Kind of Paperwork Do You Need to Pre-Approve Me? FAQ - #3

Why Do I Have to Get Pre-Approved with Other Lenders I Don't Want to Use Before I Can Make an Offer on a Property? FAQ - #4

What Kinds of Things Can Go Wrong in the Loan Process? FAQ - #5

What are Impound Accounts & Why Do I Need to Have Them in Order to Close My Loan? FAQ - #6

Can You Help Me Get My Kid Get Out of My House? FAQ - #7 

I'm Supposed to be Closing Next Week Can You Help Me? FAQ - #8 

What Happens if My Appraisal Comes in Low? - FAQ #10

What is a HomePath Property and How Can I Buy One? - FAQ #11

Can I Still Get a Loan if I Don’t Have Perfect Credit? – FAQ #12

Are There Still Loan Programs Where I Don't Have to Put Anything Down? - FAQ #13

 

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 Donne Knudsen

Realtor® - CalState Realty Services

DRE#: 01364050 / NMLS#: 249822 

 

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Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Excellent article on a topic I haven't seen to often here...nice to see some fresh content.  Well done Donne.

Mar 24, 2011 09:18 AM
Kathy Smiley
Rodeo Realty ~ Fine Estates Westlake Village - Newbury Park, CA
"Real Estate results that make YOU smile!"

Great information, Donne. Instead of the chicken and egg, which comes first - the income or the property purchase? It's always the income. Thanks for the info!

Mar 24, 2011 09:28 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Anita - I'm glad you liked the info and it's true that I don't see much info on this particular topic.  Here in Los Angeles & Ventura counties, a lot of first time buyers need to really think outside of the box in order to get into their first place.

Kathy - I've actually been asked this question more in the last couple of years than I ever have been in my entire mortgage career.  As I mentioned, first time buyers really need to get creative if they ever hope to get into their first home let alone their first investment property.

Thx for stopping by ladies; I really appreciate it.  Have a good day and a great weekend too.  :)

Mar 24, 2011 10:42 AM
1~Judi Barrett
Integrity Real Estate Services 116 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745 - Idabel, OK
BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK

Donne,

The amount of information that you share with your reading audience is awesome!  A great way to answer this question.

Mar 24, 2011 02:09 PM
Brenda Whitman, Live in Laramie Real Estate
Live in Laramie Real Estate, Laramie, Wyoming - Laramie, WY
Broker/Co-Owner, Laramie, Wyoming

Goodness, I think the only thing harder than being a Realtor right now, is being a mortgage loan officer!  I'm so glad we get to refer all the financial matters to you!

Mar 24, 2011 04:30 PM
Maya Swamy
Funds Available - Long Beach, CA
Ph.D. Long Beach, CA - fundsavailable.com

How cleearly you have explained what I have sometimes struggled to get through to borrowers.

Mar 24, 2011 05:07 PM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

Another great informational post, Donne.  There is a wealth of information to gleaned from your blog.

Mar 24, 2011 05:10 PM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Judi - I'm glad you like it.  I've been enjoying this series of the most FAQ that I get.

Brenda - While it is hard being a Realtor and MLO these days, I have to say being a buyer or seller is pretty tough too.  This is an extremely serious market and it takes seriously experienced and seasoned professionals to help buyers and sellers get to the closing table with their sanity still intact.

Maya - LOL  I know, some of my own borrowers struggle to understand why they can't apply the tenants rent to the mortgage.  However, in being allowed to use a portion of it as income, it's sort of the same concept - kind of.  :)

Jane - I do my best to provide my clients as well as local consumers with the info they need to make informed and educated real estate and financing decisions.

Thx for stopping by ladies; I really appreciate it.  Have a good night and a wonderful weekend too.  :)

Mar 24, 2011 05:52 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello Donne -- many first time homebuyers have difficulty getting their hands around purchasing their first property yet alone an income producing one.  You have answered questions that many of them ask and you have laid it out in very easy to understand manner.  Nice job.

Mar 24, 2011 05:52 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Donne, I am with the above comments, there is no detail forgotten. Thank you! It is nice to explain to the buyers the days of 2001,2002,2003 & 2004 are gone when "stated income" ruled for many lenders and buyers. BTW nothing to do with anything do you handle Foreign Nationals for Loans? Or did I just give you another Blog topic:)))?

Mar 25, 2011 02:48 PM
Ken Barker Realtor® GRI, E-Pro Certified
Dilbeck Real Estate - Burbank, CA

Donne - It just takes someone like you that explains the DPA for first time buyers. They sometimes do not have a clue what they can do. I wish I would see more buyers talk to a lender first before making their decisions first on a home. There a lot of options out there still.

It takes you getting the word out.

Mar 26, 2011 05:13 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Michael - It's true that owning investment property is not for everyone, especially first time buyers. However, in the past couple of years, I have had the pleasure of working and meeting some of the savviest first timers I have ever known in my entire mortgage career. With prices around here being as low as they are, buying a duplex is so much more affordable today than it has ever been. So, for those who do want to buy their first home and first investment, a duplex is a great way to learn how to manage an investment.

Endre - Foreign nationals are a typically not eligible for traditional financing unless they have actually filed a US tax return. Without that, they are looking at a hard money loan and while I do have some hard money lending sources, they are definitely not my niche.

Ken - You and me both. While I am seeing more and more prospective buyers getting pre-approved first, I do still hear from time to time some Realtor/agent complaining about prospects calling them wanting to see property and have not spoken to a lender and have no idea if they are qualified for a loan. So glad more and more Realtors/agents are finally getting smart and refusing to show property to prospects who are not pre-approved.

Thx for stopping by guys; I really appreciate it. Have a good day guys and since you're all in LA county, I hope you all stay warm and dry today.  Have a good week guys.  :)

Mar 27, 2011 06:27 AM