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Foolish Atlanta Home Buyers = Atlanta Home Sellers that Cannot be Helped!

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Real Estate Agent with Long & Foster 0225078705

Recently we received a few potential listing calls from would be Atlanta home sellers that wanted to list their homes.  It was interesting, but after speaking to them on the phone they all had a similar story. We really were not in any position where we could help them!  They were totally upside down!  I am sure we just confirmed what a few other professional agents had told them.  I guess they were just waiting for someone that told them what they wanted to hear!  We do not do that.

The problem is that as Atlanta home buyers, they incorrectly purchased homes with either an on-site agent or with a discount real estate company that rebated back a portion of the commission back to them.  One scenario for the new home buyer was that they were totally unrepresented because the new homes sales person does not represent them, And obviously the concessions they recieved purchasing at the time seemedlike a really smart idea! Too bad it wanb't!  The other was the rebate buyer agent company that kicks back a home buyer's rebate to the home buyer.  That was an interesting story...buyer companies that said they were representing the home buyers, but did nothing to for them.  The home buyers would have done better off wihtout any agent in this case!  How bogus!  In fact they had even signed buyers agency, but their rebates were coupled with an agreement that was really a "hold harmless form!"  The buyers agents did not arrange inspections, write counters, and did not even show up at the closings.  That does not sound like the services of a buyers agent! Very foolish, but did the home buyers know how dearly the $1500 buyers credit was going to cost them?  I think now they are starting to get an idea of the real cost!

One of the calls we recieved, we noticed the builder sold a home that was on the market for over 1 year, and offered the buyer a few concessions.  (The home buyer did not know that until we researched it, and told them!)  The problem?  The home buyers still overpaid by over 25K, plus added concessions!  That translates into, "SORRY WE CANNOT HELP YOU!"  Unless the you as an Atlanta seller can bring about 40K to closing to cover commissions, incentives, buyer closing costs, and cover the lower sales price you're out of luck!  Just think about it!  The result of getting back a $1500 rebate on the front side, and not asking the right questions before buying is a declining market!  A truly fatal mistake!  The sellers are so upside down they will not be able to sell without  their cash in the deal!

Upon research of the items that various sellers wanted sold, it was obvious that as home buyers both purchased homes and residences without knowing the true value of what they were buying.  They did not ask how long was the property already on the market, and what the price of neighboring properties were selling for.  When a builder says:

  1. I will pay all closing costs if you use my lender.
  2. I will pay a years worth of condo fees
  3. I will offer you upgrades worth 15K
  4. Free Granite Counters and Stainless Appliances
  5. Free Fun Money for Free Furniture
  6. 3-2-1 Buy-downs
  7. 10K worth of Whatever You Want it For...'Free Finished Basement
  8. A Free Pool for Contracts written by....
  9. A sign that says Future Community Pool, and Facilities site
  10. What qualifies the property as the right location?

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!  ASK ABOUT:

  1. Instead you should be asking why would the builder or on-site agent offer all of this?
  2. You need a home buyers CMA  What are neighborhood sales prices
  3. How long have they been on the market?
  4. How many times has the unit been on the market?
  5. Have prices dropped or increased.
  6. Has new construction stopped?
  7. What bonuses or increased commissions are offered to the agents that sell the home?
  8. How many homes or units are in the total build out?
  9. How many are sold? 
  10. How many Closed sales?
  11. How many are rental units!
  12. Is rental of the purchased unit an option?
  13. What are the reserves? Percentage of units in arrears? Are they Negative?
  14. Special assessments planned?
  15. Proximity to power lines, roads commercial real estate, creeks, airports, flood zones etc?
  16. What about all the unfinished homes and 4 foot tall weeds?
  17. How many units or homes are rentals?

PS...You should be allowed to use your own lender and ask the builder to contribute to your closing costs.  There is also no reason why you should not be able to negotiate the price!

Jim Crawford

 

 

 

 

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James Crawford Broker Associate

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Clark Hitchcock
Re/Max Nyda Realty Inc - Chilliwack, BC
Realtor - Fraser Valley
Isn't it to bad that these buyers were burned. Now they will flag all realtors as crooks when that is not the case. All the best in your market for 2008
Dec 29, 2007 03:53 PM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Clark Hitchcock Fraser Valley Realtor  You're right!  Talk about "penny wise and pound foolish!"  But of course it is not their fault.  One person insisted we halp them after they told us they were not going to pay a commission to us or any other real estate agent.  Then why did you call us! 

Happy New Year!

Dec 29, 2007 04:17 PM
Jesse Clifton
Jesse Clifton & Associates - Fairbanks, AK
Great list, Jim.  People know there is no such thing as a free lunch, but good heavens how they get distracted when someone dangles a carrot or two in front of them. 
The sad thing is that most folks don't like to take accountability for their mistakes and will, as Clark mentioned, blame Realtors for not being able to help.  Some folks just have to learn the hard way. 
Dec 29, 2007 08:02 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate
Jim - A really great example of why people should always have representation. Hopefully a few will read this and become educated as to why saving a few bucks going with an inexperienced discounter or anyone that does not know the market would be a big mistake.
Dec 29, 2007 11:33 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

The consumer has not the foggiest idea what they are doing when buying a home.  But, then, they are not supposed to. 

When the consumer is more interested in saving a few dollars when making a home purchase and gets stung by a builder or seller, I have no sympathy. 

Unfortunately, by the time the DOJ and FTC and the Consumer Federation of America finish "helping" the consumer, they'll be in worse shape than ever. 

IMO, the consumer  usually gets the best representation for which they are willing to pay.

Most still believe that they get a better deal with builders without and agent.  Not true, not true, not true. 

Dec 29, 2007 11:42 PM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA
Fairbanks, Alaska Realtors Jesse & Kathy Clifton  I agree totally. It is a very expensive lesson if they can see it.  From what I would surmis?  They are in total denial. 
Dec 30, 2007 12:25 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Bill Gassett Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate  The sad thing is that as real estate agents with less expereince than the consumer have perpetuated this.  We have placed listing on the internet with the address, a map to the property, school info etc.  The consumer believes they are on an adventure and they have all the info they need.  They do not! This is why real estate will never be a profession.

Dec 30, 2007 12:30 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Homefinders, Real Estate in MD & VA, Lenn Harley, Broker, New & Resale Homes   I agree, but with a reservation.  IN the past few years where there were loads of sales I've come across many would be sellers, that purchased a home with  supposed buyers agents.  They over paid for homes, no CMA's. wrong location, bad schools, wrong prices and totally screwed.  So IMHO, the buyers agents were not representing the consumer, and telling them "No this is not the right product for you because....!"

Dec 30, 2007 12:35 AM
Lizette Fitzpatrick
Lizette Realty - Richmond KY - Lexington, KY
Lizette Realty, Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes
Hi Jim! I hate that so many buyers have got caught up in all these senarios. I hope things turn around for those folks.
Dec 30, 2007 12:56 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA
Lizette Fitzpatrick,Central Kentucky Realtor(R)  So do I!  Let's hope it starts with their attitude!  LOL!
Dec 30, 2007 02:55 AM
Bobby Wallace
Vacant Land Solutions - Charleston, SC
Sell Your Vacant Land The Hassle Free Way!
Great article Jim! I agree 110%...but the cfrustrating hallenge is..How do you educate the buyers BEFORE they make this mistake...otherwise, this becomes a "never-ending story"? I appreciate you!
Dec 30, 2007 04:14 AM
Vanessa Stalets
RE/MAX Elite - Brentwood, TN
REALTOR, Brentwood TN Homes, Real Estate
What a bummer for the sellers. I have seen some of this here too. They are stuck, the only option if possible, is to hang onto it for now... The public thinks that having an agent rep you on any transaction is negotiable. It is not, as evidenced by your story. Buyer and seller be ware if you go it alone or do not have someone looking out specifically for your needs! Educate the public, anyway you can.
Dec 30, 2007 04:30 AM
Gary Smith
Agent Marketing Today - Commerce Township, MI
Jim, Good list of items. Do you have a short sale specialist?
Dec 30, 2007 06:32 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Bobby Wallace Charleston, S.C. Rent To Own Experts  Thanks!  I think that I can try to reach them via my blogging!  The attrition rate in real estate and Realtor ranks will have to drop big time before we can reach the buyers.  The real estate industry has become very dysfunctional in the last few years.  Anything worked, any price worked etc...  That is going to change shortly.  Hang in there!

Dec 30, 2007 08:24 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA
Brentwood Real Estate- Vanessa Stalets  Thanks!  It is an education process...but why did the need for an experienced buyers agent disappear in the last few years?
Dec 30, 2007 08:26 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Gary Smith, Realtor®   Gary... at this time no. I have stepped back and want to assess the market here after the first quarter.  This is going to be a very different market here in Atlanta for the next year or so.  Too many homes, not enough buyers, not enough cash buyers, no water!  Georgia also just passed a law that to advise a short sale...you need to be an attorney!  Too many details, too many tax consequence's.

Dec 30, 2007 08:30 AM
Latonia Parks
Top Bragg Realty, Fayetteville NC, Home of the 82d ABN DIV - Fayetteville, NC
Certified Military Relocation Expert
How horrible for them and for us.  As stated above, we need to do all we can to keep our profession clean.
Dec 30, 2007 11:09 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA
Latonia Parks  It is horrible, but very predictible.  Buyer beware!  When that much money is involved, buyers need to stop pause and think it through!
Dec 30, 2007 12:08 PM