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How Much Can I Afford Is Still A stupid Question!

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Services for Real Estate Pros with The Real Estate Investment Institute 1retiredsage

You've reached that point in your life, somewhere between 18 and senilty, that you want a home of your own.

You locate a REALTOR® or better yet a Loan Originator and make your first mistake. You ask "how much can I afford?"

This is possibly the second most asked question in real estate, the first is "what's the rate?" It is the dumbest question! How would your REALTOR® or Loan Originator know what you can afford? The Loan Originator and some Agents can determine what you qualify for, but that has little relevance to what you can afford!

As you read about the mortgage crisis of the last few years, keep in mind except for the small minority involving fraud each of those troubled home owners had qualified for their loan! Qualifying and affording are not the same! Often not even close!

Only you, the potential home buyer can decided what you can afford. If your current rent is say $1,350.00 and you pay all the utilities you can probably afford close to that $1,350 each month. But, as the home owner you will now have to deal with maintenance, insurance and taxe expenses that the current owner takes care of. If each month you are able to save another $1,000.00 you might be able to afford as much as $2,350.00 per month.

If on the other you ask your REALTOR® or Loan Originator what do I qualify for, they will look at your gross income and apply a factor dictated by the loan program of 28%, 33%, 45%, 50%, or more. This may mean that you can get the loan, it doesn't mean that you can afford to make the payments.

Before you ask anyone anything, ask yourselves, what can I afford? Start with your current rent, then determine what additional income you could add to it. Are you saving money each month? Do you have long term bills being paid off? Are you getting a raise? Is there something your willing to give up that would save money? Are you really willing to give up anything?

Now that you've come up with your own number you need to ask yourself the questions no professional legally can. Do you really want to buy a home with someone you're not married to? Are you going to stay married? Mortgages are for 15, 30 or even 40 years, relationships are from now until the next argument, marriages sadly often are not much longer. How would you make the payments if one of you moved out? What if by plan or happenstance one of you should get pregnant? Would you be able to make the payments during and after pregnancy?

Now is the time to talk to the loan pro, and ask the proper question. "We can afford $2,500.00 per month principal and interest (the loan payment) taxes and insurance, what's the best program we qualify for and how much can we buy with our down payment and a new loan?

Your Loan Originator can't legally deny you any loan you qualify for, don't blame them if you can't afford the monthly payment! Don't blame your REALTOR® they legally must sell you any home you want and can afford. Only you can decided what you can afford!

Posted by

Bill

William J Archambault Jr

The Real Estate Investment Institute

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Comments(18)

Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Having the money and spending it are indeed DRASTICALLY not the same.

Sep 22, 2013 12:29 PM
Bill Reddington
Re/max By The Sea - Destin, FL
Destin Florida Real Estate

I don't think it is what you can afford but how much are you willing to spend. The ratios like 28-42 are there for a reason. I think in this ever increasing cost world. Better to be conservative.

Sep 22, 2013 12:32 PM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Laura,

Exactly!

Bill

Sep 22, 2013 12:55 PM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Bill, Mr. R,

There is a reason. They are lender guide lines, for the lender's use.

When in doubt be conservative, but it's not always wise.

Bill

Sep 22, 2013 12:58 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

I think it has a lot to do with human nature. People say they are looking for foreclosures, and this means they want a bargain. They ask "How much can I afford" and mean "How much can I get"

Sep 22, 2013 04:43 PM
Than Maynard
Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma - Purcell, OK
Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862

It is what they have been trained to do. When they go to buy a  car (which is typically a persons first major purchase) the numbers can be finagled to get you into the car for the payment you want.

It is a constant argument with potential buyers about getting pre-qualified: "can I see this house?" Me: Are you pre-qualified?

Buyer: I just want see if I like and then I will get a loan approval.

Me: What if you qualifiy for more or don't qualify for enough?

Buyer: I know I can qualify.

Me: Then get qualified!

Or something to that effect....more polite most of the time.

Sep 22, 2013 11:12 PM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Jon,

There is in deed aq Pavelogian aspect to it. It is the fact "that's what every one ask" but mothing changes the fact it is a stupid question!

Bill

Sep 23, 2013 12:35 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Than,

I got started teaching real estate teaching interpeting credit reports and pre-quaffing. Only a fool goes out showing property simply on the buyer's word that they can afford it!

We also had a security problem then as know, so we never took out clients until we had a copy of their drivers license and credit report locked in the file back at the office.

Today I'd add a signed agency agreement!

Bill

 

Sep 23, 2013 12:41 AM
Than Maynard
Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma - Purcell, OK
Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862

Today it is so easy and cheap (free) to get a pre-approval and the pre-quals are free at most large lenders. It makes no sense for buyers to not get it done.

Sep 23, 2013 01:24 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Tan,

Exactly!

And at small lenders too!

Bill

Sep 23, 2013 02:45 AM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     I like people who say, "I can't afford it", when what they really mean is, "I don't want to cash in my $2 Million Annuity and take an interest penalty".    That is different than the guy with empty pockets and zeros in his bank account who truly cannot afford it!

Sep 23, 2013 10:11 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Fred,

It sure is!

Bill

Sep 23, 2013 01:14 PM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

Always best to live at least a little below your means.  Life is full of changes.  Best to be smart and not get caught in a financial bind.

Sep 24, 2013 05:09 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Rob,

Best, in deed!

Bill

Sep 24, 2013 06:37 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Bill A, Ever since I've been alive we have suffered inflation and the prognosis is that it will only get worse in the future. I am of the school of thought that a buyer SHOULD ask what is the maximum loan they qualify for because it will become more affordale each year .

Tighten the belt now to benefit in the coming years.

And don't worry about future events that could be devastating because things happen and we can't live our lives in fear. You would NEVER cross the street if you thought about all the bad things that could happen when you step off the curb.

Bill Roberts

Sep 25, 2013 02:35 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

My friend Bill, Mr. R,

We're of the same mind!

I've always advised young buyers to buy the most house they can afford! They will be happier longer with it. I've advised older buyers to buy the best house they can afford, because it will appreciate the most.

I also always advised mortgage applacants of all their choices including the maxamum they could quilify for!

But, I also advise that while the qualification is a limit it is by no means a target, buy only what you can afford! What you are comfortable with, only you know what that is.

To me aford is what you are comfortable with not the max

As to the future I only worry about what I can control or influance!

Bill A

Sep 25, 2013 08:22 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Bill A, The future may not be controllable by us indidually, but the future is discernible to those who look. QE (quantitative easing NOT Queen Elizabeth) has produced so much money that inflation is baked into our future.

Inflation could exceed 10% per year over the next ten years. Affordibility takes on a whole new complexion when you "know" that you will have mote money next year and the next and the next as far as the eye can see.

An extra $100,000.00 of mortgage value today could translate into hundreds of thousands of dollarrs in value over time. Giving up your morning Starbucks and putting that $5 into your mortgage now will pay huge rewards.

Bill Roberts

Sep 26, 2013 01:11 AM
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

Some don't drink at Starbucks!

$5.00 a day 5 days a week would pay for $22,691.60 at 4% over 30 years.

Bill 

Sep 26, 2013 08:33 AM