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Florida Real Estate Commission Recently Approved....Verify Escrow Deposits!

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Services for Real Estate Pros with Talk 2 Midori, LLC BK645709

Recently the Florida Real Estate Commission amended the rule 61J2.14.008 in regards to escrow deposits that apply to sales contracts.  More paperwork...more confirmation!  It was re evaluated January 16th.

 

 The Rule Reads.....

"Within three business days after initial and subsequent deposits are due under the contract, the licensee's broker must make written request to the escrow agent for written verification that the deposit has been made.

Within ten business days after making the request for written verification from the escrow agent that the deposit has been made, the licensee's broker must provide the seller's broker, or the seller directly if the seller has no broker, with a copy of the written verification provided by the escrow agent or written notice that the licensee's broker did not receive verification from the escrow agent."

Keep in mind one thing....it must be in writing!  Have you started doing this?  If you are outside of Florida does your state require the same?  I wonder what triggered this...what do you think?

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Adam Brett
The Adam and Eric Group - Fullerton, CA
The Adam and Eric Group, Fullerton's Finest
We do not have this requirement in California but I would guess it is not far off.
Jan 22, 2008 08:01 AM
Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

I read this. Interesting...I guess this was enacted to fix a problem.

Jan 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business)
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Midori, Thank you for this info.  It important to let everyone know the changes within the industry
Jan 22, 2008 11:16 PM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time
Midori, I've been doing this for years but hadn't realized it is now law. A very good one in my opinion. Thanks for posting this and keeping us informed.
Jan 23, 2008 03:55 AM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX
Midori, I will have to check to see if Texas is implementing the same.  I have not heard anything about it. What caused this to become necessary? I know in Texas our Title Companies are notorious for holding money to collect the interest. Have you had that problem? Deb
Jan 23, 2008 05:26 PM
Cyd Weeks
Palmcoasting.com Real Estate Corp - Palm Coast, FL
Realtor Palm Coast, Fl

I don't understand what is extra paperwork or what is different than you have been doing in the past...

When I give a deposit to the title company, they sign for it.  When a customer is supposed to bring an escrow deposit to the title company I always follow up, via email, (generally because it's so much easier) asking has it been received.  And that's after making the customer aware they will be out of contract if they do not do so.    I don't see what is different.  If the customer doesn't bring the escrow to the title company, I sure don't wait 10 days to let them know we're out of contract!       And if I were on the listing side and the buyer was required to make an escrow deposit delivery I wouldn't be waiting for someone to call me and tell me, I'd be on the phone or in email requesting if it were made.   It's a part of your duties...so I don't understand... what's so different?  

Jan 24, 2008 01:02 PM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals

For me...I will say...I always recieved a copy of the check....this is not a verification of deposit...but simply a copy of the check....we have a transaction coordinator as well who makes sure...things are done right...and escrows in on time BUT now we must take it one step farther and in writing...the actual deposit of the check we must get written verification of when the check was deposited from the escrow agent...by law we have 10 days to get that written verification from the escrow agent.....to the agents broker...while some may be doing this already...for us its the law...

Recieving and written verification of a deposit are two different things...A copy of a check is no verification...simply just that a copy of the check...so we are not all doing the same things....  Our company holds escrow ...so for us its additional work!  There is a very big difference in what we are talking about!  thank you for commenting!  See you on your post

Jan 24, 2008 10:41 PM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals
p.s  Cyd...the extra work is not on agent but on the broker! :(
Jan 24, 2008 10:44 PM
Cyd Weeks
Palmcoasting.com Real Estate Corp - Palm Coast, FL
Realtor Palm Coast, Fl

Can you give me a link to the new ruling that states you need to verify the actual deposit of funds into the bank and not the delivery?  I went to the site and could not find it.    Thanks! 

Jan 24, 2008 10:56 PM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals
http://www.floridarealtors.org/NewsAndEvents/n6-012208.cfm  Hope this helps....
Jan 24, 2008 11:09 PM
Cyd Weeks
Palmcoasting.com Real Estate Corp - Palm Coast, FL
Realtor Palm Coast, Fl

Ok, that's what I had read last night.  I think you are confused about the word 'deposit'.  IMO, as I read it, they are not talking about verification of the deposit being made into the bank.  They are talking about verification that any escrow deposits due on contract were delivered.   A copy of the check with a signature of the escrow agent is written confirmation.  A receipt is written confirmation.  If you are the escrow agent, a copy of the stamped deposit slip is written confirmation.  You can just fax or scan/email those things.  If there are additional escrow deposits due, then it would be your responsibility to make sure those deposits were received by the escrow agent.  An email is written confirmation.

From my perspective, nothing has changed except they have written it down that it is the broker's responsibility to follow up on the deposits and notify the parties as to what has or has not transpired as per the contract conditions.   As for the issue of it being the broker's responsibility, that's a given.  Everything is the broker's responsibility.  The transactions are yours... while you have sales associates doing the work, the ultimate ownership and responsibility of the transactions lies with the broker.

I going to assume this had to actually be written into the regs because some people aren't following up on the contract contingencies and making sure their customers are actually bringing funds to the title company when it says that escrow deposits or additional escrow deposits would be made with in a certain time frame.

 

Jan 24, 2008 11:26 PM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals

"must make written request to the escrow agent for written verification that the deposit has been made."  Sorry but that is how the law reads.  That's why if you have any questions....call the far hotline...trust me they have gotten better!

You are right many things are the broker's responsibility...but it makes the job at lot easier and effective if the associates do what they are supposed to do! 

This was confirmed already..and I have to trust the owner of our company afterall she is the President of Daytona Board! :)

 

Jan 24, 2008 11:31 PM
Cyd Weeks
Palmcoasting.com Real Estate Corp - Palm Coast, FL
Realtor Palm Coast, Fl

I don't want this to turn into something other than two professionals making a clarification.  I did call the FAR hotline, was on hold for 20 minutes, and I'm sorry, but your broker is incorrect.  The law reads that the deposit has been received.  When they use the words "deposit has been made" further in the ruling what they are talking about is that the escrow deposit has been delivered to the escrow agent as per the terms of the contract.  (meaning, the escrow deposit has been made/delivered) So, if you have on the contract that you have in your possession an escrow deposit (cash or check or money order) you need to have a written receipt or signed copy of the check by the escrow company showing you delivered it.  If the contract states additional escrow deposit is to be made within a certain period of time, then it is up to the broker (via sales associate is fine) to have verification in writing (email is writing, fax is writing) that the additional deposit is received.  It is not their intention that you need to have in writing that the escrow company has completed their duties that they are governed by to verify that an actual deposit into an escrow account has been made.   IMO, the ruling changes no duties, puts no additional liability on the broker.  It's just making sure the broker understands they need to have the files complete with proof of the delivery of the escrow 'deposit'.    It is clarifying that it is the duty of the broker writing the contract and stating there in that a deposit was taken by them and that their buyer will perform and place additional deposits actually follows up on it and notifies the other parties if their customer did not follow through.  It is not the duty of the other parties to track down if it's actually been done.

I guess they'll have to go back in and rewrite it so there is no confusion.  :)

Jan 25, 2008 12:53 AM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals

Hi Cyd-=called hotline again...funny thing..very popular topic..on the hotline..a different answer today....3 minutes...must be time of day!  These were the attorney's words.....and you are correct.... the rule has still changed....FREC is looking for verification only if...with a title company or attorney...not a broker's escrow account...good news for us!  Also...its not the verification of actual bank depost....you are correct...it is simply..verifing...that the escrow was recieved and when.  Any method that the title company chooses or attorney....but in writing.... and we must send this info to listing agent. 

As a listing agent I do request this info anyways....handling the buyer...I have always send a copy of the check..it can only help an offer!

I have to laugh...  In my mind I would think most agents would do this anyways....deal or no deal! I always have...too many assumptions.... It was agreed upon on the phone...they could use some clarification. I gotta feeling...somewhere they will have written clarification..thanks so much for the interraction!  Love it when someone challenges me and keeps me up on my game! Yup...I was wrong but learned something of importance.... Happy Selling in Palm Coast, Florida!

Jan 25, 2008 02:20 AM
Cyd Weeks
Palmcoasting.com Real Estate Corp - Palm Coast, FL
Realtor Palm Coast, Fl

I agree..it's something you would think they would be doing to begin with...creating a paper trail and verifying that all contract terms are being adheared to but you know how that goes, lol.

I'm glad we got it all cleared up.  And I agree, they will probably have to rewrite it so there is no confusion about the whole thing.

As for the hotline, well, one attorney's opinion is often different than anothers.  And they didn't all graduate in the top 10% of the class, lol.

Enjoy and happy selling to you also!   I swear if you send me customers I'll take good care of 'em.  :)

Oh, wait.  You're in Daytona...it's a hop skip and a jump for you.  I don't usually 'do' Daytona...I don't know it well enough, so if I have customers I can refer them down to you.  If you need the scoop or heads up on anyone you are dealing with up here, feel free to give a call or email. 

Enjoy!

Jan 25, 2008 03:41 AM
Anonymous
LAURA PUCKETT

RE: THE NEW RULING WENT INTO EFFECT IN DEC. 2007

 

Feb 18, 2008 05:58 AM
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Anonymous
LAURA PUCKETT

RE: THE NEW RULING WENT INTO EFFECT IN DEC. 2007

 

Feb 18, 2008 05:58 AM
#17
Anonymous
Anonymous

I HAVE A CONTRACT THAT FAILED TO CLOSE.  THE BUYERS REQUESTED THEIR DEP. BACK.  

ONLY THEN DID WE FIND OUT THEY HAD NEVER MADE THE SECOND DEPOSIT OF 90K.  THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE 3 MONTHS AGO.  DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A RULE IN EFFECT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO RECOVER.

 

ALL NEGOTIATIONS WERE MADE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE DEPOSIT WAS IN ESCROW.  WE WERE NEVER TOLD OTHERWISE. 

 

IF IT HAD BEEN IN ESCROW THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHIN THERE TIME FRAME DUE TO AN EXTENTION GRANTED AFTER THE DEPOSIT WAS TO BE MADE. 

 

MY ATTORNEY CAN FIND NO CASE LAW THAT IS TOTALLY ON POINT .......

 

HELP!!!!!!!!! 

Feb 18, 2008 06:00 AM
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Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals
Are you in the State of Florida?????...if so please contact me via e-mail.... midorimiller@yahoo.com
Feb 18, 2008 06:03 AM
Kelly Fischer
Treasure Coast | Sotheby's International Realty - Vero Beach, FL
Kelly Fischer, P.A.
I have a seller who wants to get out of a contract he signed a few days ago. Buyers agent has not submitted the escrow check to the escrow agent, I assume it's still in his possession....... Contract said it was due within 3 days of acceptance, so when sellers notify in wiring on 4th day that they are canceling for failure to perform, we're good - right??
Sep 05, 2012 09:45 AM