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What part of NO are you not understanding? HI HO SILVER!

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What part of NO are you not understanding? HI HO SILVER!

 

As we all know working with short sale lenders can go smoothly (on occasion) but most oftenwww.phoenixpropertyshoppe.com it's not so smooth. Phoenix Short Sales are waning and for that we are all grateful on many levels. I had made the decision earlier that I wasn't going to take on any more short sales (unless really needed by one of our sellers) as I was done working with the crazy stupid banks. And adding to that fact, our market is very close to being back to a 'normal' market so our concentration as been on traditional listings and sales most of this year and last year as well.

 

We had this one little short sale left that had been started early on in the year. You know that one - the little engine that could have and should have but never got to the top (closing).  The first offer we had came in the first week and it was above list with a qualified buyer that was willing to wait 3 or 4 months if needed.

 

The lender dragged it's feet for well over 4 months and was shocked that the buyer finally walked. Really?  You're shocked?  Why?  You had the entire package on your desk with absolutely everything required within the first week of the contract - and you sat on it. You really expected something else from the buyer? Why? That's just doesn't make any sense in fact it's silly stupid thinking. That's what we think, right?  But we handle it as professionally as possible and carry on with business because that's what we do best.

 

The Seller did want to carry on so we put it back on the market. Once again we procured yet another buyer, within a few days - a cash buyer to boot - and low and behold guess what happened again?  I know you're not shocked by the answer because you're smarter than the average bear bank! Same thing - perfectly prepared package ignored week after week, month after month with no response from this lender. And yes of course we were on them as was the attorney involved. The Buyer walked and this time the Seller said I'm done trying to work with this bank and do the right thing. We canceled the listing a while back and notified the lender.

 

This morning in pops a request for more information regarding the listing, marketing, cancellation etc from the lender.  And honestly I had to laugh and just shake by head on this one.  No - I am not doing one more thing - not one.  I'm done, Done DONE with your bank. I will never ever take another short sale on with you - ever. Is that clear enough? HI HO SILVER!

 

What do you think? Will they get the message this time?

 

What part of NO are you not understanding? HI HO SILVER!

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Comments(28)

Beth and Richard Witt
New York, NY
The best Retired Brokers !!!!

We have joined you in the "Done Arena"... Enough stupid is enough...

Sep 16, 2013 08:58 AM
Janis Borgueta
Newburgh, NY
Retired RE Salesperson

I had one that came early in the process of short sales. We had a bunch of offers. They were stupid then and stupid now. I still get calls from the bank ( the listing expired over two years ago) and want to know if I can help them locate the owner/seller since I'm the listing agent. NO i can't help you . The listing expired, and if you would have paid attention back then you would have known that the owner was dead back then. Yes, his address is six feet under. Three times I've had this call and three times I remind them the owner died prior to the short sale. Banks!! they make me crazy Anna!

Sep 16, 2013 09:09 AM
Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

Makes you just want to scream doesn't it Miss Banana.  I think they may get "Hi Ho Silver".............

Sep 16, 2013 09:13 AM
Cindy Edwards
RE/MAX Checkmate - Johnson City, TN
CRS, GRI, PMN - Northeast Tennessee 423-677-6677

Hi Anna,

Banks are crazy stupid.....I'm done with short sales!

Sep 16, 2013 09:40 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Anna, you mentioned that earlier and for sure you are in a position to just say no. Unfortunately we don't have that luxury, but some how get me the bank's name and I'll be forewarned

Sep 16, 2013 09:56 AM
Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living
Anna, I decided early on that short sales weren't for me and my colleagues thought I was crazy for not doing them. I just referred them out, and for a few exceptions, I worked with an attorney for the negotiations. I think it saved my sanity and kept me free to pursue other opportunities in real estate.
Sep 16, 2013 10:24 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Anna

Short sales have been one big mass . . . . the sooner we get them behind us the better.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Sep 16, 2013 10:28 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

I'm afraid that this is the path I'm doomed to walk on one of my Short Sales.  Perfectly complete packages not making it out of processing for decision.  Well, sadly, I can make a decision and know when something is not worth my time.

Sep 16, 2013 10:52 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Anna

Sounds like the right decision to end all that craziness. It still is astounding that there still is all this incompetence with short sales. What else can you call it? It's been going on for years? DO they still not know what they are doing? Or care at all?

Jeff

Sep 16, 2013 12:22 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Anna, moving forward requires taking responsibility! Taking responsibility can be a liability. No decision, no liability! Being on salary can have benefits of not taking any action and still getting paid! Glad when "short sales" are just a glimmer and not a source of light! Enjoy your day!

Sep 16, 2013 09:15 PM
Clint Mckie
Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections - Carlsbad, NM
Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586

Hi Anna,

There are all kinds of lenders. Some IMO wait till it is too late to do anything with the short sale and let it go to foreclosure. This could be in many cases a tactic by the lender to get the home back and recoup all the funds and not 90%. Of course these are my own thoughts.

Have a great day in Phoenix.

Best, Clint McKie

Sep 16, 2013 10:13 PM
Kathy Sheehan
Bay Equity, LLC 770-634-4021 - Atlanta, GA
Senior Loan Officer

Good Morning Anna.  I for one will be happy when these short sales come to an end.  

Sep 16, 2013 10:34 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

We saw a small boost in short sales over the summer as banks put the press on to foreclose on those homes where owners are 1, 2 and 3 years behind in their mortgages and got saved by the moratoriums.  Now it is time to pay the piper and frankly too late for a short sale for most. I am also picky with taking on new short sale listings, for me i will tackle any bank, it is having a seller who is ready, willing and able to work with me to get it done.

Sep 16, 2013 11:08 PM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Anna - The stupidity of the banks never fails to amaze, even after all these years. One of the smartest things we did was to decide very early on that we weren't going to handle short sales. It was a relatively easy decision, since they were never a huge part of the market, and our reason was that we didn't have the time to get the training and do it right (whatever that might mean in the context of bank stupidity. I wonder why we even let these institutions anywhere near our money.

Sep 17, 2013 01:36 AM
Marc McMaster
RE/MAX Centre Realty - State College, PA
Putting my clients before myself

I say this all the time, banks don't want to actually close short sales, just look like they're making an effort.

Sep 17, 2013 02:37 AM
Nancy Conner
Olympia, WA
Olympia/Thurston County WA

How frustrating!  I know you are as glad as I am to see good old equity sales get more and more to be the norm in our areas, and the number of short sales shrink.  What I laugh about is the random emails inviting me to sign up to represent REO properties - do they seriously think I paid no attention at all to how they managed their business when it was short sales they were "trying" to do??  Thanks, but no thanks!!!

Sep 17, 2013 06:06 AM
Janice Ankrett
Burlington, ON
Staging Professional

I guess they've never heard of 'a bird in the hand ...' I'm certainly glad I don't have to deal with this part of selling.

Sep 17, 2013 09:26 AM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Gene really there is no pain on my end - I just simply don't buy into all their riduculousness.  It's like a wild goose chase.  They can play by themselves or waste somebody's else time - just not mine.

Richard and Beth - that's funny - enough stupid is enough.  That sums it all up.

Janis - oh for pete's sake the man is dead and you have the ability to contact him? Wow you are one powerful agent!

Roger - it did in 2007/08 but I got over it and hired the right folks to handle it properly and didn't pay attention to all the stupidity.  And there was more stupidity in those 5 years than in my entire 25 years in the real estate profession.

Cindy - Hi Ho Silver!

Ed I will indeed email you.  Don't even waste a minute or your clients thinking you'll get anywhere with this bank.

Silvia we too have attorneys on hand working with them as well as a processor.   But I'm done now!

Lou give me one or two a year - in a normal market and that's fine.  They used to be a piece of cake before all hell broker lose.

Chris Ann - I know some of you and still neck deep in short sale land.  I just hope and pray it's over sooner rather than later for you.

Jeff - some banks are pretty good.  A few are totally just plain worthless - and I imagine that is their plan all along.

Wayne - they're almost gone here in our area as we're a non-judicial state and were able to move forward a lot quicker than judicial states.

Clint - 90% plus a whole lot more is more like it.

Kathy - we all will be!

Scott I used to say that - and the seller absolutely needs to be trained upfront to exactly what they need to provide - how many times they need to provide it thoughout the process - and expect pitfalls. This is no glamorous route and I always made sure they knew they might have to give blood too!  LOL

Dick - you were lucky you weren't inundated with short sales like we were - upwards of over 60% + . I looked back recently at some of my earlier market reports and they're scary indeed.

Marc - you're be right.  And then again some bankers like the idea of hamsters running around in endless circles and getting nowhere.  It's fun for them to plan what's next to ask for!

Janice - nope they have not. And most of the people they hire have no idea of what a contract means in their state not to mention all the other states contracts.  They mean nada!

 

 

 

Sep 17, 2013 09:55 AM
Jill Winchel
Royal Shell Real Estate - The Koffman Group - Cape Coral, FL
We make it easy. You make it home.

My husband, Ross, deals with the banks for the short sale negotiations so I don't know first-hand what occurs, but he has told me many stories. Not sure if the banks have too many to deal with or what, but it does seem like more of them could be completed quicker. Additional time is required when there are multiple lienholders.

Sep 18, 2013 12:01 AM
Sharon Lee
Sharon Lee's Virtual Assistance - Jonesborough, TN
Retired and loving life

Anna-When it comes to short sales the news with banks especially BofA is enough to drive you to the looney bin. Glad you got away from all that stupidity

Sep 20, 2013 10:47 AM